Bartholemew sits on the small bench outside the Alexandria Montazah hotel restaurant, in the lobby, just out of reasonable speaking distance to the Maitre D'. He leafs through the papers he has collected at today's talks. Most of it is related to archeological digs, which were not his forte. But he feels satisfied because of the interaction with Dr. Schwartz during the Q&A. Now, just this dinner to get through and then he can slip back to his office and get in a little work before bedtime.
Anton ambles up and extends his hand. Bartholemew stands rather suddenly and awkwardly to meet the handshake, and almost topples over, but the big russian holds him with a steady grip and also reaches for his upper arm with surprising grace and speed.
Anton
Ah Dr. Hedwick. I'm so glad you came to dinner. I feel we have some interesting things in common.
Bartholemew
Certainly, Dr. Korzhakov. I found your teaser too tantalizing to pass up.
Anton
"Teaser too tantalizing." I already am learning new idioms, and enjoying your speaking.
Bartholemew
Yes, well, I wouldn't say it's an idiom yet, but thank you. I am looking forward to some delicious Egyptian food. Shall we get a table and get comfortable?
Anton
Absolutely. Although, this hotel does not serve real Egyptian food. Perhaps one day I will be able to show you some real Egyptian street food I have found outside of hotel district. But restaurant here has very good food. I can recommend dish I had last night. Have you already spoken to Maitre D'?
Bartholemew
Ah, not, yet... I thought I'd wait for you.
Anton strides up to the Maitre D', shakes his hand and speaks quietly in his ear. Maitre D' smiles and leads them to a quiet table in the back. The restaurant is more than half full, but is large and spacious and seems empty, with damask curtains framing the ocean view, elegant white tablecloths adorned by tasteful rose buds, and sumptuous, deep, leather booths against the walls. It is into one of these semicircular booths that they settle.
Waiter appears and Anton orders vodka martinis for them, and two of the lamb tagine specials.
Anton
Please, is courtesy of Kunstkammer. I know you will enjoy these, Dr. Hedwick.
Bartholemew
Thank you Dr. Korzhakov. I'm sure I will. So you have been in the country for a while? You have found good food outside. When did you fly in?
Anton
Oh, you must get out. Alexandria is a wonderful city.
Bartholemew
Well, I live here. I'm not staying in the hotel. In fact, the library and my research office are close to the hotel district. I enjoy walking the streets, but I work so much. I moved here after my project started because of the wealth of information locally, and the fact that the scroll was found here in a private collection. The scroll is registered now with the antiquities authority, and now that it is registered, it can't leave Egypt.
Anton
Ah, the scroll, I will be interested to hear about your scroll if you can tell me about it.
Bartholemew
Oh, yes, it's not... secret, just that we haven't published our findings yet. But our research goes beyond what is apparent on reading the scroll.
Anton
And how old is the scroll, based on your latest methods?
Bartholemew
It dates to about 400 BCE, and documents recovered with it indicate that it was stored in the library at Alexandria in about 60 BCE, just a few years before the first wave of library losses. And how old is your artifact?
Anton
There are many artifacts in the collection, but they all appear to date to about 70,000 BCE.
Bartholemew
Impressive. Stunning, in fact! Are these bone tools, or pot shards?
Anton
Machine parts.
Bartholemew
Well, don't stop there! What kind of machine? Inclined plane? Lever?
Anton
No, Dr. Hedwick, it is parts of very complex machine. Made from steel alloy. Some gears, some brackets. Polishing marks are gone, of course, but you can still tell the parts were machined by some sort of milling machine. Some mating parts that fit precisely together. More importantly, the dimensions are in precise multiples. Naturally we don't know what measurement system was in effect, but the ratios of the dimensions, and the equality of certain dimensions suggest that the original tolerances were less than 1 micron.
Bartholemew
Well, I think you better check that soviet-era carbon dating equipment you have in your lab. There's no way there was a micro milling machine in 70,000 BCE. And certainly not steel alloy that could survive so long!
Anton
Well, age is probably past limit for carbon dating. Parts are steel, and carbon in very low percentage of steel alloy anyway. Encasing dust has enough organic content, perhaps, is showing correct age. Also, alloy is very sophisticated and inert. Also, pieces found in dry, igneous rock cave in layers of fluffy dust. Dust dry and radioactive, kills anything that tries to grow, soaks up any water, this was perfect packing material. Until disturbed by archeologists. But...this date, is problem. This is why boss does not have my report. I do not want to lose my post.
Bartholemew
So how do you know these parts weren't just jammed into some old dust?
Anton
Radioactive decay of steel exposed to nuclear power plants follows predictable curves; and industrial data very extensive on different steels and different levels of radiation. Also data available from Uranium and Plutonium reactors. So we plot decay levels of isotopes that don't normally occur in steel, and same math as carbon dating, we also get 70,000 years, plus minus.
Bartholemew
What do you think the parts were for?
Anton
We don't know. But I wonder how they got so radioactive. Parts are more radioactive than dust around them.
Bartholemew
Maybe the alloy responded to irradiation differently than the surroundings. And presumably the surrounding dust settled after the parts. And what of the site?
Anton
Site is destroyed, and lost. Parts came from dealer in Ukraine.
Bartholemew
How do you know the site is destroyed?
Anton
I have traced the find to two researchers, who have since passed away. But I had opportunity to speak to them when they were alive. So you see, date is surprising, but I have strange confidence in the measurement. Perhaps I will convince you to visit lab to check my results. I also have access to other labs. Despite what you have read from American press, we have modern facilities.
Bartholemew
I'm sorry for that crack. It's just that I would be suspicious regardless of the equipment. But in any case, I'm not a carbon dating expert, or even an archeologist. My degrees are in Mechanical Engineering and Computer Science. I came to this conference because I work in Alexandria, and I saw there was an interesting lecture on carbon dating that seemed it would answer one of my nagging to-do items.
Anton
Mechanical Engineering? And how do you come to be obsessed with scroll?
Bartholemew
I was in business for a while, and became interested in big data, but hated advertising, which is what had become of the computer science field in business. So I went off and started applying data analytics to ancient texts.
Anton
Yes, is big activity these days. Archive data sets.
Bartholemew
I was interested in the history of science, religion, warfare, art, music, and consciousness. I was interested in seeing if semantic webs created by researchers behaved differently over time, in other words, do information systems have personalities, tendencies, moods, that tell something about their creators and maintainers. I wrote an analytics engine that could crawl archive data sets and map datatypes in the archives to standard semantic identifiers. It is adaptable to new and non-standard archives--all I have to do is write a mapping file, which is just two trees containing the terms in two datasets, and the mapping between the terms--one-to-one, one-to-many, alias--and so on. So it was very easy to plug in new datasets. Academic archives can never quite agree on standards. Most of the organizing of the archives has actually been done very well world-wide. At this point, it's about sharing those sets in a system that can ingest them and correllate them with all their niggling differences. That's what we're slowly building. Soon, I was finding anomolies and correlations that can't be spotted by eye, poring through thousands of references by hand. This engine was pretty good at saving people time when working with large research sets, so with some partners I soon had a nice, grant-funded cluster, and was giving time on the cluster to the granting research institutes who uploaded their datasets. Analytics for Archeology was the idea.
Anton
Nice. Someday you will be big rock star software founder.
Bartholemew
I had done an interesting project in the corporate world where we did analytics on stock analysts. The correlations between what they strategized for and how the market did were very, very interesting, and were excellent predictors. Naturally, the trading houses would never allow analytics on their performance to leak to the outside world. There are disclosure laws and worries of front-running buying trends. So we got the big firms to agree to share aggregate data with a select club with a high entrance fee. We made the entrance fee, they got to legally snoop on their "competitors," and everybody in the club made more money, and made it more safely.
Anton
I will never understand Wall Street!
Bartholemew
Neither do I! But I did the same for the archive consortium. We figured out keeping access to the digital archives limited to each institute's terms. But then we also got them to agree on sharing aggregate data, so that we could do analytics across all sets. We got enough organizations interested on those terms that the grants pay for me, and my small staff, and the cluster. We mostly work on massaging the data into the hive database, and also writing queries for the client institutes. After the NSA scandal, our clients would never agree to hosting on U.S. soil, and most of the archives that wanted to participate were in the Mediterranean, so Alexandria was chosen as a symbolic and practical home for the Analytics for Archeology office. Actually many of us are virtual, but I stay here full-time.
The whole data mine is valuable, and surprising. I started using my time to ask wild, what-if questions, like what is the correlation between musical invention and economic activity.
Naturally, what we wanted was an engine that we could ask historical-oracle questions of: "O Oracle, when resources are low, and religiousity is high, will high-brow music flourish?" But that's not what we've got, of course, or you'd have known about me by now. No, we can ask questions like: show the correlation between citations of musical works and the infant mortality rate as given by authority X. These results have to be interpreted by a human, but just having those correlations is more than we've ever known in some fields.
So I got interested in tracking the wild questions I had, and seeing which information systems could answer them with more confidence. I started seeing a group of predictors around the various Alexandria Library archives that showed that they had excellent cross-linking in the past. In other words, lots of good indices, concordances, references, etc. Maintained in the present, of course, which makes for lots of connections, but also there is proof that the Alexandria Library itself was maintained very well by its librarians of antiquity.
So we started manually looking for documents that were indices and concordances. That's when we bumped into the scroll. Up for auction, ultimately acquired by an archive. It was almost entirely an index. That much was obvious. But the index was huge. And not obvious what is was indexing into. We know it mostly from the patterns of external linkage. It is a sophisticated index with data-structure-like organization showing tables and hierarchichal outlines, and external links and citations having metadata. It indicates very modern thinking... for example, it has GUIDs.
Anton
GUIDs, are these like druids? Not so modern.
Bartholemew
Sorry, between teenagers who know more programming than I do, and old Egyptian ladies walking downtown thumbing their mobile phones, I forget that my computer world still has lots of geek speak. GUID. Globally Unique IDentifier. It's a long ID that is clearly generated by a computer, guaranteed to be about as unique as a single horton-hears-a-who helium molecule in the Sun, yet short enough to be human-readable. They have interesting properties, such as: the date and time are part of the hash code to generate the number, so that in the future, it will be impossible to generate a number you generated today, as long as you tell the truth and set the clock on the generating computers acurately. Modern GUID generators incorporate a unique card ID that all network card manufacturers agree to generate and use, so each computer is unique. So the ID is a function of: time, place, and other randomizing factors. Even if world-wide, two computers generate an ID at Noon, they still get different IDs. Another useful property: even though they are generated this way, the different IDs sort and perform well in the large index schemae we use in database searches. The funny thing about the Alexandria Scroll, as I call it, is that it has GUIDs. In 400 BCE.
Anton
Well, wouldn't all librarians use these GUIDS if their library got big enough?
Bartholemew
GUIDS of the length found in the scroll require computers in order to even be generated. You couldn't generate these numbers by hand in a human lifetime.
Anton
Well, Dr. Hedwick, computers in 400 BCE is as much of a problem as micro milling machine in 70,000 BCE. I will give you this. Either we will both lose our jobs or both get Nobel prises. Perhaps your database can go back past antiquity so I can look up my machine parts?
Bartholemew
Sadly no, Dr. Korzhakov. Still, your artifacts are not ... impossible perhaps.
Anton
How so, Dr. Hedwick? Have you seen machined artifacts this old elsewhere in your travels?
Bartholemew
Certainly not. But there's just one thing. The Alexandria Scroll, as we call it, is an index of other archives that hold proof of previous civilizations.
Anton
With descriptions and drawings?
Bartholemew
No. Most of these archives are just references, with names and places that are not extant.
Anton
So how do you know these civilizations were real?
Bartholemew
The Alexandria Scroll also has a cross reference to a 100,000 year timeline that categorizes each of some 20-odd civilizations by their technical evolution and ultimate demise. We don't understand the categorizations yet, but if the scroll is to be believed, then there are 20 great epochs of civilization, each potentially like ours, that have risen and fallen before us. Some of these civilizations did not disappear, but morphed into later ones, and some knowledge transfer was preserved.
Anton
Well I'm intrigued, Dr. Hedwick, as this relates to my research. I think this is a very lucky meeting. Because, in 1989, Soviet researchers discovered these radioactive machine parts at an archaeological dig. The artifacts are likely over 60,000 years old--usual limit for radiocarbon dating--because they exhibit no C-14. But radiocarbon dating for the small amounts of carbon in steel, not very reliable anyway. Dust packed around items was also very old, and they had plenty of that. So how did modern items get packed in ancient dust? We don't know. Unwilling to believe this result, and fearing reprisals from various beauracracies for uncovering ... perhaps a previously hushed up underground nuclear device that contaminated the site... or perhaps the deliberate burial of a failed nuclear experiment some time after World War II. This part of our soviet history is not so different from the stereotypes you mention. Anyway, these scientists covered up the record of these parts and discounted carbon dating, saying it was thrown off by the presence of radiation. Either way, Dr. Boris Mendelev and Dr. Sergey Vladnikov did not want to face Politburo for digging up a previous cover-up. The cave was dynamited and the dig abandoned. Any geologic record at the site was thus spoiled. I had the privilege of speaking with Dr. Mendelev and Dr. Vladnikov before they died. The artifacts have never resurfaced, until recently. Dealers in Khazakstan had been saying they have parts from failed nuclear experiments on Russian soil.
Bartholemew
And how did you acquire these artifacts?
Anton
I tracked dealers down and quietly negotiated sale. We matched the signature of radioactive steel isotopes found in the artifacts to decay as found in modern steel that had been exposed to intense radiation at high temperatures. But the decay curves indicate very long times for the ratios we are seeing in the artifacts, also in the 50,000 to 100,000 year range. I myself have been unable to believe the results.
Bartholemew
And possibly other irregularities may be apparent: like different metallurgy than our epoch knows, or technologies we haven't developed.
Anton
These machine parts are beautiful, and do imply technologies that we haven't explored. You are correct there. I don't have the artifacts with me, but I do have photographs, and some microscopy that I can show you.
Bartholemew
I'd be interested in these. I think, Dr. Korzhakov, that you have been looking for me since before today. Did you come to Alexandria to speak to me?
Anton smiles, and signals Waiter.
Anton
Waiter, we'd like desert.
Evening outside is darker, restaurant is lit more warmly, desert is served.
Anton
So the Alexandria Scroll was just an index into the real archive?
Bartholemew
Yes, but the real archive was destroyed. The real archive contained coordinates of previous civilization, and artifacts from many of them.
Anton
And there was only one such archive?
Bartholemew
No, the creators of this archive realized its significance, and replicated it at several spots around the Mediterranean. We believe there was a great purge in 6,000 BCE which found all those archives, followed all the references, destroyed all the sites, digs, and artifacts, and then destroyed the replicated archives. So complete had the record been, so blasphemous to the society of the great purge, that the destruction of the record had to be as complete. I believe that after this purge, the society maintained a tight rein on intellectual thought, punishable by death. After a thousand years of this, certainly all memory of this event could have disappeared, and the society itself could then perish for lack of progress and intellect. Thus setting the stage for a clean start to the civilizations in Mesopotamia in 4000 BCE and China in 2400 BCE.
Anton
But the Alexandria Scroll survived.
Bartholemew
Yes, one thing we know from more recent times, such as the destruction of Alexandria itself, is that even during a government-ordered destruction, which may take months or years, there are those insiders who have connections to the black market, and will spirit away a few artifacts that won't be missed after the destruction. These black marketers profit, and stay silent about their crimes. Art dealers snatch up the pieces, which disappear into private collections for a few generations or more. This was the fate of the Alexandria Scroll. It itself was a copy of some kind of record from the original pre-great-purge archive. So really, it survived twice: the sack of the pre-purge archive, and the later sack of Alexandria's library. The Alexandria Scroll is cross-referenced to many documents supposedly in Alexandria, and a number of these are extant and are referenced correctly, so it is tempting to think that the losses at Alexandria were planned. I'm open to the possibility that the forces that tried to destroy the archive the first time somehow regrouped to destroy Alexandria's trove. It is too fantastic to think that any actual dogmas survived the dark age to appear in Alexandria, so I believe that these forces are wired into the human genome, and can regenerate in any complex human society.
Anton
But it is too fantastic to believe science progressed the same before! The history of modern science is a trail of happy coincidences and chance discoveries.
Bartholemew
Well, that's what we've been brought up to believe. It's like the Manifest Destiny of the United States, or the biblical blessing in Genesis to allow Man to have dominion over the earth, including "every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." Humans must explain the choices and atrocities that led to their success and survival, and make them seem justified. With the lucky progress of science, we humans are thus blessed and given permission of dominion.
Anton
"Permission of Dominion." It is so enjoyable to converse with you, Dr. Hedwick. My English I practice with other scientists, and from reading scientific papers. But listening to you, I can hear the poetry of English. I wish I could share with you the beauty of Russian in the same way.
Bartholemew
Please! Call me Bartholemew, or Bart. I'm enjoying our conversation, too. You are being modest: you have an excellent command of English.
Anton
Then you must call me Anton, or Tosha. So, Bartholemew, you think that we would have discovered X-Rays, colorimetry, Uranium, and the planet Pluto's perturbations of Uranus' orbit the same every time?
Bartholemew
No, but you don't need all of that to have an advanced society. And once you have an advanced society--one that has developed science--and that society has an elite class that can think, study, and experiment, and share the results socially, then most of the "discoveries" are the predestined result of applying science to the physical world. Phenomena, once solved, point to the next level of inquiry.
Anton
But what if no one ever postulated the existence of atoms to explain alchemy, and thus turn the discussion into chemistry?
Bartholemew
Good point, Anton. I see it like this: the physics of the Earth are constant, at least in the lifetime of our species. Mountain ranges come and go, climate change happens, but the basic charge of the electron is inviolate. Eventually, with enough looking, only one model explains the subatomic world.
Anton
Not quite. It would be possible to assume that an oxygen atom is actually half the atomic weight, and then fix the accounting by saying that these half-weight oxygen atoms always travel in pairs that can't be split. If this half-weight oxygen "atom" were O-prime, then relative to our modern model of diatomic oxygen, O2 that we breathe is actually O-prime times two, grouped with another O-prime pair.
Bartholemew
Hah! Does one pay an O-prime pair the same as one's au pair?
Anton
Only if they don't bond on your couch! But you see my point, Bartholemew?
Bartholemew
Yes, chemistry would still work with that model. And it's possible that you could go very far with that model before some other correlated phenomenon can't be explained until the model must be fixed, such as the fundamental charge experiments. We are constantly revising our models. In fact, they must be revised in order for technological progress. We believed in electricity as a fluid until we needed to change the model to include particle behavior of electrons. This revision allowed mathematical and theoretical models of reality to predict and explain more technologically advanced lab results.
Anton
So your theory is that humans need and desire technological progress so strongly, that they have overcome any theoretical errors every time? Could we not get stuck in a society that understands chemistry and physics, but not the subatomic world?
Bartholemew
Of course, but such an advanced civilization that didn't destroy itself through nuclear winter, or climate change, or biological and genetic disaster would eventually build such fabulous relics that surely we would have found or heard about them. The theory is that technology always leads rapidly to severe environmental degradation, which causes mass die-offs. If humans were dinosaurs, we would have simply disappeared. But something about our intelligence, our thumbs, our nomadic abilities, our need for religion... something causes us to regroup, shun the discoveries, and go back to basics. Human intelligence and our ability for non-genetic adaptation rescue us. What is fascinating, and almost unbelievable, is that religion, orthodoxy, and superstition have an ability to steer us away from too much discovery when our discoveries come 'round to bite us in the ass.
Anton
But what about Maths? None of the reach for space would have happened without the lucky discoveries of Euclid, and so on.
Bartholemew
Well, it turns out that two kinds of math can be used to describe one phenomenon. So you don't have to invent the same kind of math every time. But that math just has to be consistent with reality, and the symbols' manipulations must model reality close enough to predict outcomes, hopefully some extrapolation as well as interpolation. Once a mathematical model can do this, it is an effective model of some physical reality, and the causes of phenomena can be hypothesized and investigated. And human brains are rigged to describe the world with math. Math is many things, but at its core, it is a language of our abstractions. Abstractions and language are what humans do best among the animal kingdom. Math has the singular property, among all human thought, that it needs to hold a level of internal consistency with regard to object representation and the transformations and operations permitted on those objects.
Anton
Like linear algebra, where the arithmetic operators for addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division can be redefined...
Bartholemew
Yes! As long as the operations cover the set of real numbers, and the legal operations don't produce numbers outside of the set of numbers--say, real numbers. Without this level of consistency, the math is not very useful. Humans create math to be useful, and they constantly work and refine maths to be consistent and inter-operational. This tends to reject pointless maths, and to reinforce the development of useful maths.
Anton
Math is the one true language of the universe, perhaps even of God.
Bartholemew
I don't really believe that. Math is abstraction. Humans do abstraction. The universe does not do abstraction--the universe does infinitely complex, messy, chaotic, interrelated reality. The universe does not need math to enact the dramas that the basic physical forces allow. But Man needs math to simplify the infinite into the small sets that will fit into his thinking.
Anton
OK, so humans invent math, and math is constantly updated and revised. But the chances of missing something, getting something wrong, and missing the technological revolution for another 6000 years...
Bartholemew
Well, think of Newton and Leibniz "discovering" calculus at the same time.
Anton
That was probably a case of plagiarism.
Bartholemew
Maybe, Anton, maybe not. But plagiarism is just one way social animals share information. And there's new understanding in our day of how the "hive mind" works. Once a million software developers are in some kind of proximity over the Internet, similar discoveries are made "simultaneously" around the world. The Zeitgeist is a form of communication. So either the two geniuses simultaneously came at the problem slightly differently, and founded two versions of the Calculus, or they had some cross-pollination. But the point is that Homo Sapiens invented not one, but two flavors of Calculus in a very short time. Both flavors had different derivations, but yielded the same techniques and results. Newton and Leibniz did their work a little over 300 years ago. Remember, most of modern math and technology has been discovered in the last 600 years. 600 years is only 20 or 30 generations. The Calculus took a single generation.
Anton
But getting to the point of being 600 years away from modern science could take thousands of years, perhaps tens of thousands, or even longer than we have been Homo Sapiens.
Bartholemew
Sure, but technology in this epoch has been on an exponential growth curve. So regardless of where it starts, with a 1000 year lead time, or a 5000 year lead time, the last evolutions in technology would probably always accelerate, and come about in 30 or so generations after the discovery of alchemy, science and math.
Anton
Because of the cross-pollination of discovery that comes from social, intelligent civilization.
Bartholemew
Exactly. But we are finding that these factors and abilities are built into the genetic code of all humans. The tendency to want to sit on a stump in the woods and relax and wonder "why"; the tendency to fight battles using evolving technology; the tendency to want to communicate discoveries for recognition and to inspire an "AHA!" moment in your peers; the tendency to create symbolic languages; these are all human attributes, baked into our genome. The ability to go nuclear turns out to be a human genetic wiring.
Anton
But then, so must the tendency to resort to taboo, myth, superstition, religion, morality, and censorship to hide these abilities.
Bartholemew
Yes. Say a society caused a massive nuclear disaster or nuclear winter, the survivors would realize that after the Fall of Civilization, only taboo and myth would prevent the mistake from reoccurring. These survivors would be inclined to eradicate any artifacts or records. Possibly even special orders and priests were set up to perpetuate these taboos beyond one generation. The fear of science would have to be total for several generations in order to be effective. We now think that roughly the same scenario of taboo and repression has played out dozens or scores of times.
Anton
And we've never escaped the planet before, or come up with peaceful nuclear energy?
Bartholemew
There are certain restrictions the Earth places on us. We live in a very thin layer of air, water, and soil containing the biosphere, on a very large chunk of rock. This big rock has a powerful gravity well. Thermodynamics dictates that the vast energy used to get out of this well has to end up somewhere. In most schemes, that somewhere is the Earth's biosphere. To get significant numbers of our kind out of the well with chemical drives creates massive heat build-up in the troposphere. To do it with nuclear fission would leave lots of heat and also radioactivity all through the biosphere to boot. We'd need a space elevator, anti-gravity, worm-holes, hyperspace, or other fantastic options. In fact, as far as we have progressed, it seems that for all we can figure out, nuclear energy on the surface of the Earth is deadly to the biosphere. Add to that the tendency for humans to crave technology for war, for survival of clans, and for individual gain. So to get beyond the "Nuclear Speed-bump" of technical evolution, we have to have a spiritual revolution so that we don't destroy ourselves or our environment in the process. The one thing we do know, is that we have never had that spiritual revolution completely enough.
Anton
Or that the human brain and hive-mind have some kind of mechanism that shuts down development as it becomes too harmful to the environment.
Bartholemew
Well, many of these times, it is a cycle of survival, security, greed, war, pestilence, famine, fear, religion, orthodoxy, and social control which roll back advancements into a safer "dark ages."
Anton
And you are suggesting that the healing power of dark ages is built into the human genome.
Bartholemew
Yes.
Anton
That deliberate ignorance and obfuscation of human creativity and intelligence are wired into us!?
Bartholemew
Have you a better explanation?
Anton
Well, maybe there are gods. The gods don't like us messing with that kind of nuclear fire, and stop us every time.
Bartholemew
Anton, I can see that you'll be working for the New Inquisition. Maybe I better buy you a beer so we can become friends. Perhaps you'll remember our friendship and save me from the rack when the time comes.
Anton
Hah! I think I'll be on the rack just as soon as you, so I won't be your savior. But I'll take that pint!